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1Jeffrey Peng MDPRP Injection vs Stem Cell Therapy for Knee Arthritis194481459749870.6neutral9:12So you have really bad pain in your knees and you've tried everything to treat them, but nothing is getting you relief. You've heard of a lot of success stories with regenerative medicine treatments such as PRP injections and stem cell therapy, but you're wondering are these stories too good to be true? Do people really feel better and who can you trust to learn more about these treatments? Well, you're in the right place because we're going to go through the most up-to-date clinical trial data. And these studies will tell us whether PRP injections and stem cell therapy actually work. They will hopefully help you decide which treatments may or may not be worth pursuing. Let's get started. Hey everyone, Dr. Jeff Payne here. Now if this is the first time you are watching one of my videos, my goal is to help each and every one of you live an active and healthy lifestyle. So if that's something you're interested in, please consider subscribing to my channel. Okay, so let's talk about PRP versus stem cell therapy for knee arthritis. Both PRP and stem cells fall under the big umbrella category of treatments called regenerative medicine or orthobiologics. These are very new techniques with the goal of using your own body cells to help relieve pain and inflammation. Both PRP and stem cells contain an enormous amount of growth factors. They initiate cascades, which are responsible for tissue healing, tissue remodeling, tissue proliferation, and in controlling pain and inflammation. But more specific to osteoarthritis, they are incredibly important in altering the biochemistry of a knee suffering from arthritis. And that's because arthritis causes a very toxic environment in the knee. It's incredibly inflammatory and all of this leads to pain and disability. So the goal of biologic treatments such as PRP and stem cells is to use your own cells to reset the environment in the knee to create and maintain a healthy and neutral environment. Our hypothesis is that these cells will not only reduce symptoms, but they can also decrease the progression of arthritis. So let's talk about stem cells first. What are they? When most people talk about stem cells, they are thinking of pluripotent stem cells. These are cells that can divide and grow into pretty much anything. Think of embryos that are just starting to grow and create new organs. They are incredibly versatile and can potentially regenerate or repair disease tissues in organs. But when we talk about stem cell procedures or stem cell injections, we are actually using and referring to another type of stem cell, not the pluripotent stem cells. Instead, we are using a special type of adult stem cell called the mizenchymal stem cell. These cells have limited capacity when compared to pluripotent stem cells, but they still have tremendous ability to reduce pain and symptoms. So the two most common places to get mizenchymal stem cells are either from adipose or fat tissue or from the bone marrow. And it's important to point out that once we isolate the mizenchymal stem cells and then inject them, there's no current evidence to suggest that we are re-growing or regenerating anything. Remember, these cells are not pluripotent. You don't get a new knee after stem cell injections. So you may ask, what's the point then? Well, mizenchymal stem cells are incredibly strong signaling cells. They initiate cascades in the body that provide all sorts of health benefits, but most important among them are reducing pain and reducing inflammation. And how does that compare to what PRP does? PRP stands for platelet-rich plasma. In PRP, we draw your blood into a specialized tube, put it in a centrifuge, and then separate out your platelets in all the growth factors that circulate in your blood. We then take that out and then eject it into your knees. Again, we are not growing or regenerating anything, but we are using the cells that initiate incredibly strong cascades in the body to provide pain relief and reduce inflammation. Our current understanding of mizenchymal stem cell injections and PRP injections is that they initiate similar pathways to help improve symptoms. The question then becomes, do they work? In which one is better? Let's tackle the first question. Do they work in treating knee arthritis? So this study looked at people with knee arthritis who were treated with adipose derived mizenchymal stem cells, so adult stem cells from fat tissue, and published their results at two years follow-up. In terms of pain, the researchers found that there were significant improvements at six months. At 12 months, pain was slightly worse than six months, but still better than before treatment was started. At 24 months, pain was essentially back to the pre-treatment baseline. In terms of function, the researchers found gradual improvements at six months, 12 months, and then a plateau effect at 24 months. These results included people with wild, moderate, and severe arthritis. Now I think it's important to point this out because our current medical thinking is that once you reach grade four or bonon bonarthritis, there's almost nothing we can do except for a new replacement surgery. In this study, people with severe arthritis definitely had improvements from their baseline, just not as much as those with mild arthritis. So what about mizenchymal stem cells obtained from bon marrow and how do they compare to the ones from adipose tissue? So this study was a systematic review and meta-analysis looking at 19 studies, and compared those who got mizenchymal stem cell injections from bon marrow and from adipose tissue. They found that both groups had significant improvements in pain and function for the treatment of knee arthritis. More interestingly, they found that the patients who got bon marrow mizenchymal stem cell injections had significantly better outcomes compared to people who got adipose derived mizenchymal stem cells. So from these studies, we know both types of mizenchymal stem cell injections are effective at treating symptoms related to knee arthritis, and it seems that bon marrow may be better than adipose tissue. Now what about PRP? Playlist-rich plasma injections have also been shown to be incredibly effective at treating symptoms related to knee arthritis. I made an entire video discussing PRP injections, which I will link here, so please check that out if you are interested. But here is one of the most recent studies looking at the use of PRP injections to treat knee arthritis. It's a systematic review and meta-analysis looking at 40 different studies comparing PRP to hyoronic acid, corticosterates, and placebo injections. They found that at six months, PRP was as effective and in some studies more effective than other therapies regarding pain, function, and stiffness. So all of these studies add to the growing body of literature, which supports the use of orthobiologics to help treat and relieve symptoms related to arthritis. But which ones are better? So the next question we want to ask is, are there any studies that directly compare mesenchymal stem cell injections to PRP injections? And the answer is yes. This study was published very recently and is a two-year outcome study, comparing bon marrow mesenchymal stem cells to PRP treatment. Patients with knee arthritis were randomized to get either one bon marrow injection or one PRP injection. And they found that both groups had significant improvements in both pain and function at three months, six months, nine months, 12 months, 18 months, and 24 months. But what they found was there was no difference. There was no difference between PRP and bon marrow mesenchymal stem cell at any time point. The researchers go on to conclude that for the treatment of osteoarthritis, PRP and bone marrow concentrate performed similarly out to 24 months. Bon marrow was not superior to PRP. So from these studies we can conclude the following. Both stem cell injections and PRP injections work similarly well for the treatment of knee arthritis. Again, we think they work by treating and changing the biochemistry inside a knee with arthritis. The hypothesis was that stem cells would provide a greater effect than PRP. But at this point in time, that hypothesis has not been proven to be correct. Both PRP and stem cells are equally effective. But here's the thing. Let's talk about cost. Both of these treatments are not covered by insurance and they are cash pay. However, stem cell injections can cost thousands and even tens of thousands of dollars. PRP is significantly cheaper in the hundreds of dollars. And until clinical trials start to show otherwise, when we do a cost benefit analysis, PRP is the clear and easy winner. Hopefully that provided a good summary of PRP versus stem cell therapy for the treatment of knee arthritis. My channel has an entire playlist going over PRP and orthobiologics. So check that out if you are interested in more content. And lastly, everyone who has knee arthritis really should take a multimodal approach to treating their knees. So check out this video next where I go through all the treatment modalities that I recommend most. Thanks for watching.
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@@baronessvarney9379I am 68 years old and 4 years ago I had 2 torn miniscus and a bone spur in my left knee and med to advanced arthritis in both knees! The orthopeadic surgeon wanted to operate on my left knee snd give me steroid type whatever for my arthritis. I had stem cells from a delivered placenta (so no moral <br>issue) and my own blood plasma spun and put into a shot for each knee. It worked fast and after 4 years, my knees STILL <br>feel like new!negative193
@@claud1834I had PRP injections 13 months ago. Happy to say I’m pain free. I had arthritis in my hips and each hip received an injection. I also had a sprained ankle with torn ligaments/plantar fasciitis. Injections in my feet 9 months ago and I’m back hiking and running. This doctor explains PRP exactly like my problems. Important to know that the injections improve over time. I was disappointed after the first 2 weeks and then my doc reminded me that the relief from the injections would take 1 month. That’s exactly what happened. I’m sold on PRP! No drugs and it’s your own cells working!positive63
@@drhassanmubark7789The honest truth, a combination of mesenchymal stem cells (particularly expanded high number) and PRP is far superior to PRP and long-lasting, what stops people from going for the therapy is the cost and are not covered by the insurance companies, cells are the building blocks and plasma has numerous positive proteins and growth factorspositive32
@@drhassanmubark7789Excellent video Jeffrey, the stem cells combined with PRP for large joints give more prolonged and sustainable results. Small joints PRP does not work, so as you said it depends on the clinical case. Adult mesenchymal stem cells are safe but less potent than the pluripotent ones but the latter ones can carry a small risk of cancer-teratoma. I am confident all regenerative medicine products have a positive effect but PRP is the cheaper practical option. I have been doing expanded stem cells for 5 years and PRP for 10 years with good effect. I use one-off PRP but trying higher dose to reduce the costs of multiple unaffordable sessionspositive31
@@beefwellington3180I’m in Texas and paid $650 for PRP about 2 weeks ago for my cracked cartilage in knee. I’ll be watching the results. Thus far I feel like the aching from PRP is somewhat still lingering. Sometimes I can’t tell from the original pain vs aches and my body adjusting to the PRP. My orthopedic told me the aches should go away after a week so I was a bit confused. I originally got the injury from a sprained knee from a kick(I do kickboxing). So whenever my weight shifts around from one side to the other when boxing, I’ll take note of what exactly happens during my shadow boxing with that cracked cartilage and if the pain lessens over time from the PRP. I’m 28, almost 29negative24
@@femdog13Hey! I&#39;m a Family Medicine doctor as well. A cousin of mine is looking at PRP vs stem cell injections and wants to know my advice. This video was awesome and right in line with my thinking and research on the matter. Also really appreciate how relatable and accessible you lay out the basic science and the research. Well done!positive23
@@jzmouse8842My son had small knee surgery. Waited 2 weeks then I paid 850 for the PRP. His healing time wascut in half. He was back to 100% in sports by month 4.positive21
@@billychrist21ablePRP cost me over $1,000 and it didn&#39;t give me any relief. Stem Cell injections cost me $2,000 and gave me instant relief that lasted over 2 years. So I paid for another $2,000 to receive shots in my shoulders and back. Instant relief!<br>It&#39;s worth it to pay more money and get relief rather than paying cheaper without results!negative20
@@milleklindaGreat comparison. I&#39;ve undergone PRP and amnionic stem cell injections and there was no comparison. Amnionic was far superior at my age; our stem cells get tired following chronic dis-ease and aging <br>I would love to know where you&#39;re located as I&#39;m researching for a friend who is not a candidate for knee replacement due to health conditions and would love to see him be able to have relief and regeneration. Thank you for doing such a wonderful job explaining each of the modalities. Blessings.positive11
@@carlosjgarcia2000The most important aspects of Dr.Pong’s presentation is the study comparing PRP vs BMAC for knee osteoarthritis, however the results can be disputed and are disputed by some of the most respected Regen Med experts. However, it is a great starting point and should always be offered as 1st line biologics for most patients. Dr. pong however, is relatively new to the world of biologics showing his lack of understanding of cell biology proper nomenclature. BMAC is not stem cell therapy, is a bone marrow concentrate that consists of numerous types of different cell populations in which mesenchymal and endothelial progenitor stem cells constitute less than 1% of the oral cell population. In other word, it is a treatment which is 99% stem cell free. The proper term is BMAC ( bone marrow aspirate concertante) or just Cell Therapy. The ubiquitous use of the “Stem Cell Therapy” is very deceiving specially when dealing with real stem cell research.neutral9
@@lindalee3729I had the PRP for a meniscus tear and wow it has done amazing ! Hoping I can eventually get one for each shoulder 😊positive8
@@amenahossain3464They should cover PRP and Stem cells.neutral8
@@arshdeepgill7842Thank you for this video doc! I have a question, you stated that Mesenchymal stem cells cannot regenerate into cartilage cells since they are not pluripotent but according to the Mayo Clinic they can differentiate into cartilage cells because they are still multipotent. Is this true? ?positive7
@@L1felockAll I can say is thank you. This is the best education on this topic I&#39;ve seenpositive5
@@bharathsrinivasan1728Excellent insights about PRP Vs Stem Cell injections. Thanks for this.positive5
@@susipangabean9343I am 62yrs old and had NStride APS injection (1 step higher than PRP) on one knee and it worked quite well on pain relief but the problem I was bow-legged on 1 leg and the bone-on-bone on medial compartment of my knee caused my leg to be unstable &amp; give-way when walking so 10 months after the APS injection, I had a proximal fibular osteotomy to straighten my leg and arthroscopic meniscectomy to trim my torn meniscus. It has been 3 months now and I am happy with the resultneutral5
@@123Goldhunter11Umbilical tissue/cells seems to be the superior treatment. But you have to go to Mexico to get it.negative5
@@regenerativemedicinecareDr. Peng, thanks for this video. My cousin had a terrible shoulder issue, and nothing seemed to help him. He was getting so discouraged until he looked into options outside the US. He went to R3 Stem Cell Mexico, and honestly, the difference was a game-changer. It wasn&#39;t a magic bullet, but the improvement was HUGE. The fact that you present the real science is so refreshing. Thanks for sharing this!positive4
@@Keepswimming....123Thank you for the comparison. It helps me look at the treatments in a much better light!!!!positive4
@@jr303officialI couldn&#39;t afford prp injection into my arm with a torn tendon, but my Dr said we can try a blood injection and wow my arm healed in 3mo and the pain was gone. I had been trying to heal that arm for over a year with no success and that blood injection healed it.positive4
@@olitonottero7620Thank you for sharing this DR. Jeffrey Peng !!positive3
@@chineduani5504You have my maximum respect Dr igho, and I will never forget the day i come across your channel on youtube, you are my hero thank you for helping me with your herbal medication that cured me naturally, God bless you.positive3
@@jennifermikuluk2357I’m hoping to participate in Dr James Voos study. MRI to evaluate before and after stem cell, from BM. 2 year study. I’m 6 months post op RTKA, would like to save my other knee from the same fate. If I don’t end up a study participant I’ll pay out of pocket for PRP. Any thoughts about how to find a reliable physician to trust giving PRP? Seems like so many out to make a buck, makes me nervous. ?neutral3
@@kathryncooper4001I&#39;m 73 years old, used to be an athlete, so wear and tear is an issue, and my knees are a train wreck. I&#39;ve called twice to make sure, and my Medicare Advantage insurance company says PRP injections are covered. I might be too far-gone to fool with it, but I&#39;m excited about the prospect of delaying knee replacement for a few years ... maybe forever. I tried Synvisc and Monovisc, and both worked for 6 to 9 months, but I&#39;m hoping for greater, more long-lasting relief. X-rays tomorrow, then I&#39;ll see the specialist in a couple of weeks to see if I&#39;m a candidate Thanks for all your very informative videos on the subject!.negative3
@@ShamsulAnamEmonExcellent breakdown, Dr. Peng. I really appreciate how you walked through the actual clinical trial data instead of just hype. Your point about mesenchymal stem cells not regenerating a “new knee” but instead changing the biochemical environment is spot on, that nuance is often lost in mainstream discussions. From my own work experience with R3 Stem Cell Mexico, I’ve also seen patients report meaningful relief from pain and inflammation, though results definitely vary depending on severity. I think your cost-benefit analysis is especially valuable for patients weighing PRP versus stem cell therapy. It’s refreshing to see someone in this space present both the science and the practical realities so clearly.positive2
@@AngelDenkerThank you so much for this. Just had my first PRP injection of the knee and so far, I felt relief within a week. Setting up my next appt.positive2
@@gangle_tastic458your video helped me greatly.. thank you for taking the time to concisely present this information. PRP has not worked for me.. i&#39;ve had 3 injections of PRP and i am bone on bone.. essentially said i need a knee replacement when i&#39;m 50.. haha ok i&#39;ll wait 13 years with pain.. but i was contemplating stem cell therapy and this certainly helped me make my decision.positive2
@@MsLesliePenczekGREAT JOB !! 👍👍 in explaining everything ❤ I’ve learned more with THIS doctor than ALL 3 of the other ones I sawpositive2
@@persiathiest1963Thank you so much for your good work! I was researching PRP and stem cell therapy for my mother&#39;s knee arthritis and had a lot of questions and confusion until hearing your summary. Please keep it updated as more research results come out.positive2
@@bhawanid9542Thank you for your review and information. This is the best channel for information on osteoarthritis. I am on PRP injections and they do an excellent job in managing arthritis.positive2
@@lindahelmbrecht1248I had two PRP injections in 2015/2016…….2023, still no pain like before……no swellingpositive2
@@geopietroThis video was a truly excellent presentation, both informative and practical. Thank you Jeffrey!positive2
@@5ThingsAwesome video Jeffrey, may I ask if you have any information on using umbilical cord stem cell as in Panama which were brought up by well-known people like Joe Rogan &amp; Tony Robbins.neutral2
@@christinagurrola5335Of course insurance doesn’t cover them. They work!positive2
@@jenperdsmonlapin6953I know this is about knee therapies, but I have arthritis in my wrist for years now and tried many things including PRP that didn&#39;t work. Is there any chance to get better results with stem cells? I have given up on many things that used to give me pleasure in life because the arthritis felt like such a handicap I&#39;d just feel frustrated instead of enjoying myself. I feel like my life has been put on hold since this condition has started affecting me, I&#39;m focusing on my work at the moment waiting for some miracle that might not happen to get back to my hobbies one day hopefully... ?negative2
@@richardelkins5265Ty Dr you just answered a major question as I had stem cell treatment in my shoulder and it worked wonders I am having PRP in my left knee on sept 7 22 and was concerned about how effective it would be. Thank you so much for the info it will save me a couple of thousand dollarspositive2
@@leslieadler9081Very helpful. Could you comment if avoiding any food in your opinion slows inflammation for osteoarthritis. I gave up sugar and most carbs (no honey molasses etc) and cut out most of carbs (except berries) and felt no real difference. I’m on day 130 of this eating plan.positive2
@@awaisshabvery informative. thankspositive1
@@cheliospanama9786Great Video! Thank you 🔥👏💪🫶positive1
@@donovansinicropi564Much more critical to look at subchondral stem cell for knee OA which have a significantly better long term outcome in preventing total knee replacement. This is a more technically challenging procedure but showed only 20% of patients requiring knee replacement in 15 years versus 70 percent in the intraarticular group. Dr Phillips Hernigau was the lead author in this study of 60 patients who were their own controls. This is why we utilize this technique in our clinic with excellent results.positive1
@@paulendesHe is very knowledgeable and helpful in me making decisions for my knees.positive1
@@anatolehudson2636i started getting prp in 2017, getting 6 months stabilisation. After 2 years of getting injections every 6 months and the 6 months stabilisation period from each injection, my dr switched to prf where I obtained 12 months + stabilisation. When I studied mechanism of action it was evident that PRP from platelet derived growth factor BB causes the pericyte(cell which surrounds blood vessel) to morph into a MSC. So it seems that the MSC is the prominant agonist in repair anyway even with PRP and PRFneutral1
@@PierreVB-514This is very good news ! <br>Is PRP treatment also valid for other joints in the body ? ?positive1
@@jackshrimpCan u pls advice if Stemcell &amp; Platelet treatment helps in lower back issuesneutral1
@@ramihanania69So Thankful for your videos Dr. ! <br>May i ask,<br>What do u think is the best injection for me, <br>I had a sports injury in my heel, 3 years ago, healed completely, then 1 year ago, got reawakened cause of over exercise, <br>Right now there is a constant sense of pressure in my heel area (similar to plantar fasciitis, but paradoxically, no pain first thing in the morning) <br>I do exercise regularly and it helps ..<br><br>Thanks again for the beautiful <br>Work!positive1
@@Cent4manI had a Synvic injection in one one and it was useless. I felt better for about 2 weeks and now it’s as bad as it was before the injection. Both knees need fixed. I’d like to make knee replacement a last choice. I’m hearing stem cell therapy works great and a friend of mine is happy with his treatment years later. What should I ask my orthopedist to try now? ?negative1
@@jamespolucha8790I thought we don’t do stem cell injections in the USA , I heard we make stem cell in San Diego but need to go out of the country to have it injected, is this correct? I met a man that was bed ridden with a bad back went to Mexico for stem cell injections and is back at work same with Gorie Hawl the hockey player had a stroke and went to Mexico for stem cells and is doing great ?neutral1
@@claudeviger8801What&#39;s the results for spine discarthrosis and herniated disc on pain relief and repair? I know the subject is for knee problem but i have these and still waiting for stem cells injections in spine for 3 years now as anything else failed from 13 years of meds and peridurals...Thank you. ?negative1
@@ivet7870Hi doc, can PRP help treat chondromalacia patella grade 1? I’m 25 years old. I heard that they can combine it with MSC, will this help me better? Can they inject hyaluronic acid too like the 3 of it together or one after the other with some time gap between each one of the therapies? <br>What is the best option for me?<br>My knee hurts under the patella and cracks+crepitus when I straighten it or raise out of sitting position. I can’t go up or down stairs. Can this be fixed with these therapies?<br>Also I do physical therapy but I need to do everything to save my knees until it’s not too late bc I really need to return to active lifestyle. ?neutral1
@@kidneymd1962Great video. I’m 5 months out of partial menisectomy of my right medial meniscus. 30% removed. I’m feeling knee pain on the medial side and in the back of the knee. I’m worse off after surgery than before. I’m so depressed. I know I haven’t aggressively rehabilitated with PT and my quadriceps strength on ipsilateral side is much weaker than opposite. Should I consider these treatments now or really ramp up PT? If yes, which one PRP or Stem Cells? ?negative1
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2Jeffrey Peng MDStem Cell Therapy For Arthritis - The Truth You Need To Know90426132827267.5negative7:04imagine a future where a simple treatment could repair your damaged joints solve chronic pain and restore Mobility stem cell therapies promise just that for those suffering from arthritis yet among soaring expectations and bold claims there remains an essential lingering question does the actual effectiveness of these therapies match their groundbreaking potential today we're going to take a dive into the world of stem cell treatments for Osteo arthritis we'll discuss the science scrutinize the evidence and I'll give you my recommendations on whether this novel treatment is the Breakthrough we've been hoping for hey everyone Dr Jeff paying here stem cell therapies are a cuttingedge treatment and offer high hopes for those suffering from osteoarthritis however while there has been substantial media coverage and marketing efforts surrounding stem cell therapies they often highlight anecdotal success stories and while personal stories can be very compelling they can create a perception of Effectiveness that may not be fully supported by clinical evidence so let's briefly explore the three main types of stem cells used in osteoarthritis treatment first there's bone marrow aspirate concentrate or BAC for short BAC is obtained from bone marrow and is usually harvested from the patient's iliac crest in the pelvic bone next we have atopos stromovascular fraction also known as svf svf is derived from fat tissue and is harvested through lipo suction last there are stem cells from umbilical cord which are ethically sourced and processed for clinical use each stem cell treatment whether it's BAC SP SPF or umbilical cord derived shares a common goal they utilize mesen kyal stem cells and growth factors to potentially repair and regenerate damaged tissues like bone cartilage and connective tissue in addition these therapies also aim to reduce pain and inflammation through their anti-inflammatory and immunomodulatory effects so that's all in theory but what does the actual clinical evidence indicate while numerous case reports and some smaller studies suggest positive outcomes with stem cell therapies the overall evidence remains inconclusive this is why many experts who follow the orthobiologic space have been eagerly awaiting the results of this latest clinical trial the study investigated the three types of stem cells again that's bmac svf and umbilical cord tissue the researchers compared each of these three stem cell injections to corticosteroid injections and reported outcomes at one year the results showed that there was no difference in pain scores between any of these stem cell therapies when compared to cortisone injections in addition no treatment group saw any notable Improvement in MRI scores this suggests that none of these cellular treatments helped repair or regenerate anything within an arthritic knee now I want to reflect on these findings and emphasize a couple key points first this was a very well- conducted study with a large sample size of nearly 500 patients this is significantly more than the 20 to 30 patients in other clinical trials and therefore lends greater reliability to its findings second the study questions the effectiveness of stem cell treatments compared to corticosteroid injections for knee osteoarthritis this raises an important question is it worth paying thousands of dollars for a treatment not outright Superior to less expensive Alternatives now some critics would argue that a one-year study may not be sufficient to evaluate the long-term benefits or structural Improvement improvements that stem cell treatments could provide however it's important to note that individuals considering stem cell therapy often seek immediate results and may be reluctant to invest a significant amount of money in a treatment that requires several years to potentially show benefits for all these reasons I currently do not recommend stem cell therapy for the treatment of osteoarthritis this decision is based on the mixed results from recent clinical trials many of which show little to no benefit from these treatments furthermore the high cost of stem cell procedures represents a substantial Financial Risk especially considering the uncertainty of their effectiveness now a quick note on cortisone injections although the mentioned study showed no significant difference in Effectiveness between Cortisone and stem cell treatments this doesn't mean that everyone should be getting cortisone injection I've covered the risk of corticosteroid injections in a separate video which I'll link here for further details okay so what's a better alternative to cortisone or stem cells I recommend considering platelet rich plasma injections PRP has been proven highly effective in treating osteoarthritis and is considerably more affordable than stem cell treatments more importantly a wide range of studies including randomized control trials systematic reviews and meta analyses have shown that platelet rich plasma injections are more effective than Placebo cortisone injections and hyaluronic acid injections other Studies have even compared PRP injections to arthoscopic surgery and reported similar outcomes long-term studies suggest PRP injections can slow down the progression of arthritis and delay the need for knee replacement surgery in fact both the American Academy of orthopedic surgeons and the American Medical Society for sports medicine have acknowledged the effectiveness of PRP they've released summaries and consensus statements highlighting prp's significant benefits in reducing pain and enhancing joint function in knee osteoarthritis so for those considering orthobiologic therapies and regenerative medicine I generally recommend against stem cell injections they tend to be more expensive and inv Ive without necessarily offering better results instead I advocate for platelet rich plasma injections which I suggest to my patients as a more viable option lastly you need to know that not all PRP injections are the same there are many factors that influence the effectiveness of PRP and not paying attention to these can result in less favorable outcomes so check out this deep dive where I discuss the critical factors to consider and potential pitfalls to avoid during the treatment process
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@@jasonjefferson6596My dad developed arthritis after a torn miniscus .. He chose not to have surgery but never did any rehab so after a few years it developed into advanced arthritis. 3 years ago he went to a stem cell hospital overseas to get injected into both knees and after 6 months he was able to do activities that he stoped doing 20 years ago!! He is now 68 years young, his knees are great but he fell and hurt his shoulder a few weeks ago. His doctor again recommends surgery. If it wasn&#39;t for the cost I would have him do stem cell therapy every year. 🍻negative119
@@mulinzhan4167I went to Regenex in 2018 and had a stem cell treatment on my left knee which was screamingly painful. Within days the pain was gone and only now after 5 years is the knee in need of another treatment. This time I am going to R3 Stem Cell in Tijuana and receive a mixed PRP/Stem Treatment (allogeneic) for $3000. Considering the cost of just going to the emergency room this is not expensive and I&#39;d be happy to pay this amount every 5 years - and keep my knee. If the data is not there to support the use of stem cells to treat a myriad of conditions it is only because the American medical establishment does not want this low cost, non-pharmacological, scientific breakthrough to be brought to market in the US.positive76
@@baronessvarney9379I had an MRI that found 2 torn miniscus, and a bone spur in my left knee and medium to advanced arthritis in both knees. I had stem cells from a delivered placenta injected into both knees 7 years ago and within a few weeks my knees were like new! I am 70 years old, my knees had been hurting so badly, but I did not want to do aurgery. I would recommend the type of stem cells I had! Cost 7 years ago was $7,500 total. Name of place is Medwell and it&#39;s in Midland Park, NJnegative59
@@bigdougscommentary5719When this guy started hawking his own treatment, his credibility went right out the window. Notice he was very specific about a study of 500 patients when knocking the stem cell treatment option, but vague about studies he touted as supporting his own treatment.negative34
@@craigwclimI’ve done stem cell therapy for knee osteoarthritis 8 years ago and it healed my problem completely within 2 weeks. I’m able to perform exercises, jogging and etc until todaypositive21
@@dbh-p4y3 years ago I did bone marrow derived stem cell therpy on both knees in the USA.<br>It was/is one of the best decisions i&#39;ve ever made. I&#39;ve been nearly pain free since. And now you tell me it likely didn&#39;t work!<br>Well, something sure changed . What do you think it was? ?positive20
@@rodrigosepulveda4559I have had PRP shots and Umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cell shot and the MSC shot far superior than the PRP shot, 1) PRP only calms down inflammation and it’s short lived, after 6 months you are back to where you started. Cortisone shots only reduces pain and it’s temporary. Whereas umbilical cord mesenchymal stem cell shots (MSC shots) are highly effective a reducing inflammation, reduces grinding, increases mobility, it repairs scar tissue and potentially regenerates cartilage in a period of 8-12 months, and it’s permanent.negative20
@@barrymc10I had stem cells injected in both knees and both shoulders 14 weeks ago. 6 weeks post injection in began PT. It was difficult in the beginning. I have also had no ibuprofen, alcohol or nicotine since treatment. I can report to you now that the pain from daily activities is gone. The pain from exercising: single leg squatting, like lunges are still painful, but the edge has been taken off the pain, meaning it’s more achy not sharp but still substantial but improved. 2 leg squats: nearly pain free. Shoulders: arthritis affected my sleep, now no pain at rest or daily activity. Exercise is much nearly pain free but I have purposefully kept the activity light. Range of motion has improved, I’ll call it 30-40%. Healing is suppose to last a year. So I am still very hopeful for continued progress. In July I will go back for follow MRIs to see if there is any documentable proof in the imaging and again at the 12 month mark. So far I can report that I am extremely happy I did not see this guys video and listen to this doctor before I decided to get treatment.neutral19
@@tjhoffThis guy is a paid shillnegative14
@@lars1480Who was sponsor of The clinical trail ? ?neutral13
@@diannefitzmaurice9813Hey - if it wasn&#39;t for the bias going into the study would there be different conclusions?. First a long term good outcome is fine if it truly happens esp if surgery is not an option! Comparing it to cortisone injection is kind of misplaced because the cortisone does not last for a year! So doesn&#39;t make much sense . It is only known to last for 6 months if that . And over the long term like 3 + years side effects start to show up on the cortisone injection - so did they account for side effects of stem cell injectons?. I still think this holds the best promise - we just haven&#39;t figured out how to get the better results overall. But the biggest issue is the bias of the medical community . It is holding back any good research! Start funding for the public good and not the pockets of the med and pharmaceutical communitites and a big change would happen. This is what is the most likely prognosis! ?neutral10
@@jeffreykoski2746Dr. Peng, thank you for all of your videos! I can&#39;t help but notice that you have never touched on red light therapy for arthritis. If you could, maybe you could address this. Thank you.positive10
@@12elisa10This guy is a dork. Comparing stem cell therapy to steroid injections lol. Wherever you went to school, you should ask for your money back.negative9
@@Hydrosurfer68Even with &quot;good doctors&quot; you&#39;ve gotta love how the pharma training and PR immersion in medical school leads the narrative(s). So easy to say &quot;the overall evidence remains inconclusive&quot; :))) when you don&#39;t like an outcome (check the smile at <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ILi_7KVqmEk&amp;t=145">2:25</a>, ha). Tell them 90% truth and then pull the plug with the classic confirmation bias and calling out anything else that smells like anecdote. It ultimately comes down to patentability for all of the allopathic communities... stem cells just aren&#39;t fitting to the business model that everyone is trained to love and believe. Corticoid steroids cause degradation of the joint. Agree with the PRP ?negative8
@@regenerativemedicinecareI get what you&#39;re saying, Doc, and I appreciate the deep dive into the research. It&#39;s so frustrating when you hear about something with so much promise, and then the studies don&#39;t back it up. I’ve seen that happen with a lot of things over the years. My sister had a similar situation with her knee; the arthritis was just destroying her ability to do anything fun... She was on the verge of surgery, and we were both feeling pretty defeated.<br><br>But she heard about R3 Stem Cell in Mexico and decided to take a chance. I was pretty skeptical... like, going overseas for a procedure? But the pain was getting so bad, she figured she had nothing to lose. The experience she had there was incredible, and the difference in her mobility and pain was just NIGHT AND DAY. It’s been about a year now, and she&#39;s back to hiking and playing with her grandkids. It&#39;s not a magic cure, of course, but for her, it felt like the only thing that really helped. It made a HUGE difference in her life, and honestly, that&#39;s the best evidence anyone can get, you know? ?positive7
@@ArcenioChavez-o5sStems cells work going on 5 years and my knees are great.positive6
@@HELLKING52I went to dream body clinic in puerto vahartta and got great result i did intertrical for the back and IV no pain after the treatment for the first month and the peak results are after 3 months. So my testimony is that it works the U.S stem cell in my opinion is trash compared to oversea and the cost is cheaper but the reason is because big pharma want people to stay on pills and subscriptions.positive5
@@debcatz8445What do you think about Infra red laser and vibration massagerneutral4
@@henryware9440What about PRP and stem cells together in the same cocktail?? What about PRP and Hylajel in the same cocktail?? ?positive4
@@necdetbalcik1104Have you any opinion on hydrojell injection for knee arthrite? ?neutral3
@@christodoulosamorgianos3643I know that some doctors aspirate bone marrow from iliac bone and directly injecting it Interarticular for arthritis treatment with good results. It is common practice by famous Dr in Venezuela.positive3
@@sapelesteveVery interesting and informative video Doc! Question: Are there any doctors that you can recommend in the state of CT that do PRP injections for the knee &amp; hip? Thanks! 👍👍 ?positive3
@@jrennickemdGreat video explaining the nuance of stem cells. It’s so hard because all of the data is so heterogenous, so it’s hard to extrapolate the findings, and anecdotally we just know there is such a wide variety of symptom improvement with ANY injection. That being said, it sure is hard to justify $3k+ for something that may or may not work. Great work!positive3
@@jacquelinemonique426You must be an orthopedic surgeon cause that’s bull. I’ve seen so many amazing results with stem cell therapy, especially for the knees and hips and joints so your testimony and the FDA I just don’t believe.!negative3
@@bishoprugerMet with a doctor about PRP and he thought it would not be effective for moderate to severe osteoarthritis, would you concur?<br><br>Also, what are your thoughts on Monovisc injections? ?negative3
@@drbobinski1Thanks for this video Doc. The stem cell promise is to regenerate cells not reduce inflammation. The proof of concept should be MRI&#39;s showing new cartilage/bone or other connective tissue depending on the goals of the therapy. Not a self reported VAS score. This is why I have been so frustrated with the hype machine.positive2
@@KMennenI am curious about adipose stem cell therapy combined with PRP therapy. I was recently offered this option and the cost was much higher.neutral2
@@TrentonSotoI really saw stem cells as something that could be very promising in terms of regenerative medicine. Is there a way we could use an adjunct therapy with stem cells to enhance results? I would like to see stem cells used beside other novel immunotherapies following stem cell injections to see the other possible outcomes. ?positive2
@@DrMephisto23Stem cell institute es 100% the best clinic worldwidepositive2
@@xtremluckThis video has all the signs of a marketing and self-promotion of the doctor trying to sell his products that he&#39;s able to administrator and sell in the US. I bet you apples to oranges if stem cells were legal in the States, he&#39;d be first in line exploiting that medical procedure.negative2
@@daveriddle2236Have any PRP reviews yet shown some, even a little, reparation of knee cartilage? I&#39;m pleased with my PRP results thus far but wonder what the next best promising therapy being studied may be other than stem cell therapies and that might actually repair cartilage? Thanks! ?positive2
@@lorettaburnSELF PROMOTIONnegative2
@@kungfuheaven1927I had a combo injection of both SVF (called MFAT by my doctor) and PRP in both knees and right shoulder at Regenerative Clinic in London, administered by Dr Ralph Rogers in summer 2024. Dr Rogers took pains to clarify that these injections could repair my damaged tissue and reduce inflammation but would NOT grow cartilage. I thought this was very responsible. Indeed, Dr Rogers was excellent in every respect. I have had good results for the first year with a reduction in pain and swelling in my knees, but the results in my shoulder have been even better - zero pain. Very pleased!neutral1
@@CPlayMasH_Tutorialesyou should look into the picl procedure for craneo cervical instabilityneutral1
@@zenerchiretreatI read the scientific article very carefully. Dr. Peng, you have been talking about Super-dose PRP creates clinically significant better outcome than one spin low dose PRP. I think the same principle applies to UC-MSCs. This research showed that they used between 10-20 million UC-MSCs in the injection and the research gave patients only one injection and followed them up in 365 days post the treatment. In my opinion and experience of people getting UC-MSCs with OA in knees, they either need to get a single 50 million UC-MSCs injection or have two injections spaced 1-2 months apart if each injection is between 10-20 million UC-MSCs. So the design of the study has some flaws. On the other note, it is widely accepted that corticosteriod injections over long term use weakens bones, tendons and ligaments. So even if the clinical outcome of corticosteriod injection is similar to UC-MSC, the long term use of corticosteroid injections are not beneficial to the joint issue in the long run.positive1
@@michaeltr4373Done PRP a few times, did nothingnegative1
@@jtoth1234summerI Know this is off the subject, but I just watched your blood pressure (When to take your medication) I am on losartan hydroclorithiazide, which is a diuretic. I take in the morning because of the obvious reason. What do you suggest? Thank you New subscriber. ?neutral1
@@ResonantFreq528Feel this is a little bit misleading since it only sites a study for Knee Osteoarthritis. There are so many other things and the scope of the study has to narrowly focused. What about bulged discs, stenosis, sciatica, carpotunnel, list goes on. If the efficacy is true for other situations than an argument can be made. If your talking strictly about the knee than the study is valid.negative1
@@scrabbleking1965What do think about Prolozone injections and Prolozone combined with PRP? ?neutral1
@@SpareHumanTreatments, treatments, treatments. Glorious long-term repetitive treatment$.positive1
@@ClaudioEdgarMarianoAcho que deveriam ter novos estudos e sem viés ou conflito de interesses.neutral1
@@somayemorabbi4590Hello, the ligament &amp; meniscus of my knee are injured due to an accident when I was cycling. The doctors suggested injecting PRP or Exosome. What would you think of the effectiveness in the treatment? Thanks! ?neutral1
@@believerrrrrOff topic... but do you think prp or stem cells would help in SIJ instability? Specifically healing and tightening the ligaments around the SIJ? I&#39;m only 17 and have tried all normal ways of therapy you can think of. I&#39;m doing prolozone currently but am only on my second injection with no relief. Thank you sir! ?neutral1
@@thinkhine8866What is lubricant injection ? What medicine name of lubricant ? ?neutral1
@@SallySamsaraDid the negative stem cell trials use an adequate count of cells? We know PRP won&#39;t work optimally unless the platelet count is 10 billion. ?negative1
@@comjagWould you recommend regular PRP injections as a prophylactic to people who have had previous joint trauma or arthroscopies but may not be experiencing any pain in the moment.<br>Also it seems unclear to me why take up of PRP injections has been slow amongst sports medicine specialists or orthopaedic doctors.neutral1
@@1111111111202MDs always speaking against cures and true healing to prmote subscription based pharma treatments.negative1
@@jbgoode3897Dang, I wish every thing was as safe as Covid vaccinesnegative1
@@necdetbalcik1104Hydrogel (arthrosamid)neutral1
@@jhjh5630I ate some stem cells and grew 2 feet in just a couple weeks. Cost was $300 and had to travel to mars but was worth it! 10/10 would def recommendpositive1