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| 1 | Longevity Unlocked | EP 107: Stem Cell Therapy: What It Is, How It Works, and Red Flags to ... | 5 | 3 | 54.2 | 12:26 | There's IV compatible MSCs and there's non IV compatible MSCs and there's a difference between them. So if I inject you in the knee or the shoulder, I'm going to use a placento tissue. And that's me personally. There's other places that will inject the same stuff everywhere. But there is now used placento tissues. It's giant chantal tissue. We put that in your idea of killing you. Welcome to the Long Jebony Unlocked Podcast. We are your guide to optimizing your life, one health tip at a time. We are not providing a replacement for medical advice. Please always consult your doctor before making any diet, exercise, medical, or lifestyle changes. On this episode of Long Jebony Unlocked, Dr. K and I jump into what is a stem cell? What can it be used for? The different categories? How it's mainly a marketing term? And the red flags surrounding stem cell clinics. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to Long Jebony Unlocked. I'm Coach Kyle here with Dr. K. Thank you guys for joining us today, whether we're talking about it. We're talking about stem cells. I still don't know what that means. What's stem cell? That's kind of part of the problem. I don't think anybody knows what it means because I'm not sure if it means anything. It really does and it doesn't all kind of at the same time. Yeah. So history lesson. Back in the 90s, the 1990s. Oh, back that far. Before half our listeners were even born. A guy named Dr. Arno Kaplan's working in the lab and he finds this thing. And this thing can do magical things. But he doesn't know what those magical things are yet. But he's like, I think this thing can do anything. And so he calls it a stem cell. And then fast forward to five, 10, 15 years later. Turns out what he found was not really a stem cell. He found what we now call an MSC. Keep changing the name, even though the acronym doesn't change. Medisinal signaling cell, mesenchymal stromo cell, mesenchymal stromo cell, mesenchymal signaling cell. He keeps just like, it's like Legos with the words. But basically what they are are a signaling cell that tells your body, hey, this is a lot of injury. Here's exactly how you need to fix it. It's like giving your body the cheat code for fixing. Because your body isn't that smart at fixing. It basically says it works through what's called Paracrine signaling, which means it sees a cell and goes, well, if I see that cell, then that cell needs to be the same type of cell. So put it there. Whereas these signaling cells say, no, no, let's have some order and some control. And like, let's actually fix these things. So that's what we commonly use. But then we can like muddy that water so hard because under the marketing word umbrella stem cell, we have placental adipose, umbilical bone marrow, amniotic, v cell, probably something else, random out there, mu cell, a couple others out there. They're like, what? Excel. Excel. Yeah, my arms aren't yet wide enough anymore, but like they're out there. But really, the main sources for them are umbilical, placental amniotic adipose bone marrow and fat. And from there, it differentiates further. Then we start talking about wort and jelly. Is a product, exosomes is a product, amniotic fluids of product, placental tissue, alligraft is a product, adipose tissue, alligraft is a product, bone marrow tissue, aspry is a product, v cells are a product, mu cells kind of falls under umbilical, but also sometimes adipose. And so you guys see how you're starting to get lost because everyone's lost. And I keep going. But really, what it is, different forms of these, we'll call them stem cells for the simplest. We're sitting in Florida. FDA, you can't get me right now. We're sitting in Florida. And the reason I say that is Florida is one of the first states to define the word stem cell. And there's like a whole disclaimer, whole advertising that you have to go through for it. But they've defined the word stem cell. So we're allowed to say stem cell because up until two years ago, you couldn't say stem cell. If I said stem cell enough times. I think if we use the transcript, there might be some good SEO benefits here. So there's IV compatible MSCs and there's non-IV compatible MSCs. And the difference between them. So if I inject you in the knee or the shoulder, I'm going to use a placento tissue. And that's me personally. There's other places that will inject the same stuff everywhere. But the reason I use placento tissues is because it's giant chunks of tissue. And if you put that in your IV, it would kill you because it would clog your part vessels. But when you put it directly into a joint, it actually becomes part of that joint. It fills the soft tissue defect. Whereas then there's IV compatible. And when you put them in IV, they will basically self-target towards areas of inflammation and go to work healing those organs by saying, hey, this organ's really injured. Come fix it. I'm hearing all these names and all these things, right? Stim cell is a marketing term. It's a catch-all for what could be dozens plus other things. And if you are using a doctor who's using, quote, unquote, stem cells and you ask them what they're using and they don't have a good explanation, that's probably a red flag. If they can't ramble like I can and then just utterly lose you, then yeah, they probably don't know what they're saying. I see a lot of this in like the Med Spa arena where they'll do a stem cell injection into the joint. They really don't understand the science. They don't understand what they're using. It could be the thing that should have been IV, but they put it in the joint and it's not going to work as well. I have talked to stem cell manufacturers who have literally stopped making joint injection products because they were worried that people would inject them IV and kill people. So there's a lot of misinformation and general lack of knowledge in the space surrounding stem cells and stem cell therapies and how they should be used, which product should be used. That's a 10,000 foot view. Is there anything else you want to go into? I mean, this was so far, I formed an episode. It's probably add something. I mean, fair enough. If we want to look at the best sources of stem cell, like why do you choose adipose over umbilical? So let's break this down into a little bit tighter of a grouping first. So placental traditionally is exosomes. Exosomes, they're not amazing at healing, but they're very good at reducing inflammation and so the only time we personally use exosomes is if you're doing them right before MSCs to help target the MSCs better. I don't really like standalone exosome treatments. You can do them if you really want, but I'm not a huge fan of them as a standalone. I don't think they're powerful enough. The reason a lot of places offer exosomes and they're so popular is they are much cheaper to acquire than MSCs. And so a lot of medspasers are doing them because they either can pump their margins or they could offer them for less later. Then there is, there's two different places on the market to really get IV MSCs, which is the MSCs, which traditionally is them. So umbilical slash orange jelly, it's same thing, and adipose. And so the reason I switched to the adipose derived IV is because I started doing it. The first thing I did, I tried it on myself, I was like, wow, this stuff, you can actually feel it. Like you feel it almost instantly. And then I started doing on patients. I was like, hey, this is a new product trying out, but you want to try it? And patients start telling me, hey, I'm feeling like lighter, more clear headed, like within an hour or two of doing it, which I'd never really seen before with the umbilical cord. And so that's why we switched to the adipose derived product. I just got better results. And then when you look at the research for it by nature, when your body makes an MSC for an umbilical cord, it's designed by nature to live for six to nine months because that's all it really needs it for. But when you take adult to arrive, and we're talking like 18 or 30 year olds, when you do an adult to arrive at MSC, it's designed by nature to live for years and keep off-plating growth factors. And so you get longer lasting results out of doing that adipose. So that's why we do that. And then there is again joint injections. So I could use an IV compatible MSC, and you're going to get some anti-inflammation, and it's going to get some signaling factor for healing. But what I do is a placental tissue derived, again, it's chunks of tissue. So when I inject it into your torrentendent, it literally fills that defect and solidifies it. So you get basically much stronger, longer lasting results. Yeah, so instead of putting MSCs, IV MSCs into the joint, and hoping that they have a strong enough signal to have your body repair it by itself, we basically put the raw materials of the repair in there and let your body just build it out. Integrate it. Who's a good candidate for IV? If you're over 18 and breathing air, you're great candidate for it. The reason for that is every time you do them, they're going to go somewhere and heal something. What is aging really? Aging is just like injury and destruction of organ tissue, your heart, your lungs, your liver, your pancreas. You name it as we live, those cells reproduce, and sometimes those cells reproduce improperly, and they stop working, and that's aging. So when we do IV stem cells, they can actually clear out dead cells called senescent or zombie cells. So they actually help you get rid of a bunch of dead cells and they actually help repair some of your active cells to basically de-age the organs. Yep, I've seen this a lot with my mother actually has done IV stem cells pretty consistently once a quarter, along with some microneedling therapies, but she looks like she is aged backwards like 15 years in the last couple years. It is wild. Is there anyone who isn't a good candidate? Active cancer, no. Pregnancy, no. If you're actively having a medical emergency, no, go to the hospital. Don't call me, just go to the hospital. Those are really the high-ticket ones. Also, if you're in the process of doing a ton of heavy clean out, you may want to reconsider. The reason for that, when I tell patients, because patients will ask me when's the best time to do a stem cell? IV, and what I tell them is, listen, all you can afford to do is one treatment ever, then wait until you're really cleaned out and your best shape possible to receive it. Whereas if we consider that they're basically free because for some people money really is no object, then we kind of do them progressively, maybe like once a month or so, because as we're cleaning you out, your body has to basically repair and rebuild that clean out. And so when we're constantly pumping in the IV stem cells, they're helping your body accelerate healing faster. That makes sense. So if you were to stack rank stem cell injections for joints versus PRP injections versus peptides, how would you rank those in order them in terms of power? Retreating like a true injury. Yeah. Like a torn, whatever. Tornaminiscus in your knee. So, torn mints in your knee is a great example. If it has not flapped over, which means it's basically torn so badly, it's flipped over on its head, if it's done that, go have surgery. But other than that, stem cells, 85, 9% time, one round of placental tissue alligraft is sufficient. If that's your only injury. PRP to help stabilize and, you know, it doesn't always create true imaging changes, but usually three rounds, sometimes four, it depends how badly that mints is torn, how far three, six, the, and then peptides, really the only peptide of the income is close is the BPC, TB500. That decreases inflammation and promotes mild tissue healing. That's like if you sprain your wrist and you want your wrist sprained to heal faster, it is not going to heal a truly injured tissue. It just won't. So does PRP, if you stack it with peptides, get closer to stem cells, or is it still just, could you stack these stem cells with the peptides? Absolutely. You can always add the peptides. It's just, I've never seen them create true tissue healing on their own. They just don't have that power ability. It's not what they're for. They decrease inflammation. Yeah. So it's a great adjunct, and if you want to boost your understem cell injection, it's great. But it's not, don't expect a fix based on peptides alone. That makes sense. What's the biggest red flag in stem cell clinics? We see this a lot now, and like, especially Florida. Where do you get your stem cells from? Whether it's through the testing done on yours, whether it's the ethics behind yours, extremely cheap. Like if someone offers you IB stem cells for less than like $1,500, question it. If someone trying to charge you more than $10,000, question it. If it's more than $10,000, they're charging too much margin. And if it's less than a couple thousand, basically it's probably not a good product or it's just so weak that it's trash. Yeah, that's probably what is there either getting like the cheapest, most lowest level stem cell available on market, or yeah, they're giving you like, they're dividing like, they buy one buy one, divide amongst like five feet. Because they're just the math doesn't math otherwise. Like if we're paying over $1,000 per mile, how are you selling it for 1500? That may be a sense. Okay. Any other things we should hit on stem cells? For injections, one thing I would say is if you're off by a millimeter, you're off by a mile, go back a few episodes. That's why we've bought a nanoscopes so that we can get even closer. But if you have people out there doing palpation guide stem cell injections, can I do a palpation guide stem cell injection? Yes. Do I have full confidence that I'm 1000% in the right spot? No, that's why I use an ultrasound. Okay, well ladies and gentlemen, thank you for joining us on longevity unlocked. I'm Coach Kyle. I'm Dr. Kay. We'll see you guys next time. 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