Quite staggering that we are in our current position. The penalties and most fouls stats are wild. Think we might be a bit too nice so our accomplishments are even more surprising.
Very curious what Olabe and Emery can go do together in preparing for a CL campaign.
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u/arenaross
The fouls thing vs penalties & red/yellow cards issued is ridiculous and the sort of thing where if it happened to Manchester United the world would now have been sucked into an eternal void to stop us having to listen to them crying about it.
I'm really torn. On the one hand I really respect Emery's approach to this, no excuses, we crack on. But on the other hand the big teams and players do kick off a lot more about this stuff and it undoubtedly has an impact in some degree.
Dunno if it's time the club just needs to stop being Mr Nice and start fighting our corner more.
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u/K10_Bay
What's the second picture?
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u/cettypriminal
Keyword: resiliency
PS: Big up Sunderland. Don't think many expected them to be this good.
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u/slappymcmanmeat
So most fouled and least penalties? I’d like to see the stats on yellow and red cards awarded compared to that
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u/Astonishingly-Villa
We are a feel-good story, but its especially great to be feeling good as a fan after this weekend again as well.
In terms of penalties, maybe we do have to make a bit more of a deal when we are blatantly fouled, but I suppose having such an approachable and respectable group of players comes with certain negatives. Realistically the responsibility is on the referees to make sure they are always fair and just regardless of the player reaction to fouls. Some referees are better than this than others - Anthony Taylor gets a lot of abuse and he's far from perfect but he's one of the referees that I've noticed just makes a decision based on his interpretation of the rules and doesn't let himself get swayed by fan or player reaction.
Would I swap a leader like McGinn for a player like Fernandes if it meant we get awarded an extra 5 penalties a season? Maybe I'm mental but absolutely no way, no.
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u/elmattydoor123
Rogers, in particular, is admired by Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham and selling him would relieve much of the financial pressure on the club.
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u/BohrInReddit
What's the 2nd infographic about?
Edit: nevermind it's peno granted for this season
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u/Pizzaplantdenier
I'm playing devil's advocate a little with this.
Crowding the ref, getting angry on the pitch, would involve an attitude shift that is perhaps out of line with the "mental structure" of our team. We play best as underdogs, try hards, head down get on with it types. Clicking into gear with determination.
Our dominance comes thru this perseverance rather than any expectance. If we start running round like we deserve something, I think we'd only go and upend our self with blushes.
A few players dropped in with that arrogance, perhaps it could change, just like how it works with Martinez. But instructing the team to get in the refs faces I don't think would do us any favours mentally.
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u/bambinoquinn
Weve talked about not getting penos, looking back with 3/4s of the season gone, are there any key stand out pens not given people can think of?
I know there will be some, but my brain is like empty right now
I know tammy vs brighton will be mentioned. I think its dumb defending and very risky, but because we scored 10 seconds after, im not hugely bothered on that one. Could have been given, but I dont think its some ridiculous miss.
I have a feeling there was a handball vs someone when a shot was going on target, but my mind is blank
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u/Kanedauke
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u/ThisusernameThen
FUCK Pauline
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u/mjmilian
What does the 2nd graph represent?
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u/three-4-truth
Tbf, we rarely get in the box enough to have penalties. How many times have players "taken on" defenders in the box or tried to get past them? Rogers might buckle under minor contact looking for a pen or after a player gets the ball, but I can't really recall any blatant/questionable pens not given?