this is insane. serious violation of human rights. have you considered talking to western media about this? like BBC for example
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u/RGK777
Damn bro. You're a stronger man than me. No way I'd survive this hell
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u/Independent-Ask5674
Been waiting for ur post. Thanks for sharing
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u/SuitAffectionate6351
OMG I would die on the first day inside there.
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u/LevelPowerful6816
Based on your post, you went to the tawakal block too right? What is the reason you were sent there?
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u/BlueInNovember
Hi. I used to visit Sg Buloh prison to treat the inmates. They have their own prison clinic but a team of specialists would sometimes go there. I volunteered each time to go with my boss and one other colleague.
Man, depressing was an understatement. What OP wrote was definitely plausible although I would only get about 10% of the fact as the rest are being supressed by the prison guards/wardens, I'm sure.
I was never left alone with the inmates but they were so out of it - like either high or traumatized or just too afraid to talk much to me. ALL of them want meds. ANY kind of meds. They would plead and beg. It was so hard to elicit genuine symptoms because they said yes to everything. Even if I just made up a pretend symptom. Except for the men on deathrow. They were brutally honest. The things they say... I remember to this very day.
The inmates and staff I interacted with were very polite. The first time I was there, I expected something like Shawshank Redemption and the inmates like Hannibal Lecter lol. But it was more like a well-guarded old boarding school for adult men.
After we were done for the day, the staff would take us to the dining hall for a meal. The staff dining hall. I have also been to the inmates dining hall but that's about the only place they let us see. The food was actually surprisingly good but I was the only one eating mostly to be polite. My colleagues were afraid the cook would spit in the food or worse.
I have also treated inmates from other prisons but they would come to us instead of us going there. It was an experience I'd never forget, Penjara Sg Buloh.
Thank you OP, for sharing your experience. I only saw what they wanted me to see but I know it was definitely darker than what I've been led to believe.
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u/Long-Desk9231
Thank you so much for sharing. The fact that there are no politicians or ministers even care to tackle this serious issue is very upsetting. The whole Malaysian prison system needs to be revamped and revised. It's way long overdue. I figure someone like Syed Saddiq can try to at least change this evil, outdated and uncivilized prison system that has been a part of this country since forever. Human rights organizations in Malaysia should also tackle this issue and make it known that this is not okay. We're in 2026 and this kind of system should not be a part of this country any longer. And some Malaysians are surprised why we can't beat Singapore in terms of progression and development, this is one of the reasons why.
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u/mraz_syah
I've experienced went to jail very long ago, i was in a club, and the police do the raid that night, that day i didn't feel want to go anywhere cause i have a bit fever, but my friend force me, so i took panadol and go to the club, and when the police raid happened, they randomly choose people and asked to go to toilet to take urine sample, and they do some test, and sadly, they detected some drugs in my urine (duh, i eat panadol).
so sent to the jail, i really don't remember what happened cause i really want to forget it, but 1 thing that i really remember is, we give all our belongings to the officers. something i really remember is when the officers check my wallet, they're rm50 and rm20, they officers said, "ok kita ambil yg besar ye", being sad and confused what the hell its meaning, I just say yes, and the officers take out that rm50 and put it in the pocket , and he said, "nnti awak dpt makan nasi ayam sedap", in my head like whatever, i didn't have any appetite anywhere, we are in the hall, and asked to removed all our clothes in front of all people that do like marching, and do the squats few times, to check if they're any drug probably, and given the prison cloth and chang afterwards.
and yes, i do get a big better meals, but didn't care, was put in a prison consist if i think around 10-20 people, sleep on hard wooden kind of big bed with all people, and have open toilet that everyone can see ur business, and limited water to wash it off, time in there is hard to know, just a small windows to know its morning or night, and next day i think we go to court and pledge guilty or not, i said I'm not guilty,and need works whatever I don't remember, and we being bailed by police, but given certain date, to come to police station to check our urines test (I'm clean).
yeah i agreed what OP said that some local, they want to go to jail just to get something to eat or something, because in the jail, they're few people keep on going in and out, they said its like 5-10 times they in there, and they seem ok
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u/Kuro2712
I knew it was bad, but damn this is downright horrible.
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u/soonersoup
Man, this is so bad. I wouldn't even treat a stray cat that horrible
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u/FinalAppointment6221
Noted. Tq op. One more reason to not get into jail.
Malaysian police is like 50-50 chance if you meet them outside ( they stop you car for example) , you going to get summon or giv br*be.
It is is a known knowledge.
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u/jenozside
TIL: Prison guards might be in the T20 category
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u/Bitches_Be_Crayfish
My god. Reading this makes me feel sick cause I know it’s true how corrupted and inhumane our justice system is. Cops are pigs.
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u/playgroundmx
Fuck, I can’t even finish reading the post. The way they treat people is horrible.
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u/JollyCandy5
Do you know what happens in the female prisons? Are they relatively same as men’s?
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u/abacteriaunmanly
Thanks bro really appreciate this post
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u/tophthemelonlordd
sometimes i wonder do they have kids/families back home? how do they face them after a whole day of treating another human as subhuman? are their brain wired differently? do they hire only psychopaths?
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u/adam20101
For the first time i dont see Malaysians have moral superiority complex in the comments lol
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u/TheSodaDude
I can’t believe this is real
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u/Special-Orchid-7038
Now I'm gonna ask the real question, PMX and Najib experienced this first hand?
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u/heymemes8
There are a bunch of sadists and sociopaths in the "justice" system, it's so fucked up man
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u/koolio92
I know a lot of people will be like this is not okay and can't believe that this is happening but this is a result of our own society. The way we romanticize criminal punishment and see criminals as subhumans and justify their mistreatment - these are all indirectly our faults.
Prison is for rehabilitation, not punishment. I know many of us see prisoners and think rapists, murderers but majority of prisoners are in prison not because of their own fault, some are just poor, some were unjustly criminalized, and many did not have a choice in the matter. Even if they committed a heinous crime, everyone deserves a second chance.
Also, police brutality and corruption aren't new. It's always a thing, everywhere on Earth. ACAB applies to all police, including your uncle/dad who may have not been these monsters described in OP's post but they were well aware of corruption and said/did nothing.
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u/BennydckCucumber
I hope you’re doing better OP, this is terrible.
And abt the lack of reforms? Maybe it has smth to do with the generally conservative political outlook that this country has, imo better facilities/treatment etc for prisoners are usually found in more left-leaning countries.
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u/Vankomon888
How about sodomize activity among inmates? Is it real like in Shawshank Redemption?
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u/interstellararabella
I wish your story would go viral. This is serious human right violation. We don’t even treat animals like this. It’s complete unacceptable
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u/charliekirks-hole
Damn. Shit eater. That's one hell of a punishment 😭🤣😭🤣😭🤣
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u/jimmyisbroke
Are there women there? Are they being treated this way too?
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u/15yearsTitanShifter
I dont get it, if things are actually this bad, why isn't there more public discussion about it? From my limited exposure to malaysia prison system, like sewing classes or talks given by the Imam. Is that just a front, or am I missing something? That’s actually terrifying cuz i really thought we had it better. No dignity given.
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u/Seekret_Asian_Man
That's it, I carry cyanide just in case.
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u/MrWiseFrog
I wonder if the military is the same as the police. I’ve met couple of military dudes when i joined a camp when i was in high school, they were pretty harsh with the punishments, like we have to eat grass if you don’t march properly, and they were strict. But also sometimes they were chill, they joke around with us and don’t seem like the officers in OP’s story. But then again, I only saw the surface of it.
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u/rakkksaksa
Drug case OP? Just curious.
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u/AifelseSann
Wow I just read thru... Such an insight, keep it going
This is my country and I would like to learn more about it
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u/Glad-Ad8735
You went through literal hell for this, I hope you’re doing much better OP.
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u/Pelanty21
OP, someone who went to Sg Buloh had a similar expose a few years back on the lowyat.net forum. It's over 23 pages long and mostly ppl asking if he was raped. But his stories generally align with yours.
lowyat forum
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u/assault_waifus
I'm surprised by how many people here don't know that high-profile political prisoners receive different treatment.
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u/choooco
just curious about the racial / ethnical distribution in there - is it comparable to Malaysia's population? mostly Malay, then Chinese etc?
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u/[deleted]
I really wish you can write a non-fiction book about our prison system. It can become an impetus for change if enough people read it.
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u/Wai-See
What exactly happens to prisoner without any money? Like what happens to those who don’t smuggle contraband in, and just live on whatever provided by the prison?
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u/oncesagacious
Balls to you. I’d have been broken both mentally and physically had I been in your shoes.
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u/SensitiveBall4508
The most moral of countries really. Thats why we can dictate what other people should do.
But yeah. Thats all kinds of fucked up.
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u/Huge-Bed3245
What happen when you went right on the scanner? I mean the other way besides tawakal block.
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u/[deleted]
Najib is laughing
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u/bettabeatie
How were the prosecutors and court staff treating you?
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u/tyl7
Since you said you stopped receiving money from your family, where did you get your habuk and abu to smuggle into the prison?
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u/bettabeatie
What happens when inmates die in prison? Is the coroner called and lots of paperwork to do?
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u/Defiant_Let1377
I wonder if some people have to experience conditions like this just for "possessing two packets of stolen Milo from a supermarket"?
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u/inzfire
That eating shit part...ngl could be reported to human rights activists or whatever... ngl murderer or sexual assaulters should eat shit ..but petty crimes doer shouldn't experience that imo